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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 – CES News Round-Up
01:17 – Despite Rumors, Intel Not Delaying Arc
03:01 – AMD RX 6500 XT to Use PCIe 4.0 x4
06:09 – AMD Considering Ryzen 5000 Support on X370
12:04 – 4K Gaming Monitors are Happening
13:29 – Intel NUC with Socketed CPU Confirmed
17:08 – AMD Emphasizes Long-Life AM5
19:11 – In Win 127, Nebula 127, & B1 Mesh
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Well hold on Steve hold on. Note the wording. They said they are "targeting" Q1 of 2022. When you work in design and consumer deliverables industry, the way that is worded, while truthful, is meaningless to your question. Just because you set a "target" doesn't mean you'll meet it if there are delays. For example, I myself was "targeting" being a billionaire by the time I was 25…… let's just say that target was waaaaaayyyyy off.
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Thank you Steve for reporting on the Airforce it's a really neat looking case and InWin has a nice store in the EU unlike many other manufacturers. Definitely considering it for my next build.
What about the salon? We heard you are the 3rd cousin of Jethro Tull. Please explain!
Do you like having to eat your hair and Bob back like a girl while you do your videos? It’s super annoying and obvious. Doesn’t Dungeons and Dragons have a hair length code? Or is it your boyfriend that likes your locks?
12:04 Not only refresh rates, I believe GPU prices and availability will be the deciding factor. Upgrading your monitor to game at lower FPS doesn't seem like a good move
why in the world would you want to put a 5000 series ryzen in a x370? I paid $145 for my x570 back in jan 2021…i just check the price and its only gone up $40. If youre spending that much on a cpu (5000 series) then why the hell wouldnt you just get a x570 ? GN you make no sense bro
@4:30 I've been stuck running GPUs at 1x, Pci 1.0 1x on my old mac pro (rtx2060) and pcie 3 1.0 on my main machine (secondary card, 2070 super runs on a 1x riser, primary runs on 16x) and I really don't notice much difference – eth dag loading takes longer, loading textures and stuff into vram can take longer, most actual gpu performance in gaming, gpgpu is not affected. Pcie 3.0 4x for a lowlowend card is plenty fine.
with a mobo standard more likely to hang around for a longer time, i am much more inclined (able to justify) to get a much higher model of mobo. with intel only having the same standard for 2 generations, i know i will not be upgrading the cpu with the same mobo, so i will only get what works now
AMD: "We want to promise that you can upgrade the CPU in your motherboard to get you to buy it, but then when you actually go to upgrade we want you to have to buy a new motherboard anyway."
There's no way to spin this that makes AMD look good.
Intel did one foray into this back when LGA775 was supposed to support Pentium 4 and Core 2 and everyone had to buy new motherboards anyway. Now they change the socket every generation even if the CPU needs the same number of pins (three versions of LGA2011, or was it LGA2066).
Keeping a socket for more than one CPU generation just isn't worth it.
Please do a video on how to bios flash the older b350s so they support amd 5000
MPG321URDE and XG321UG. How can two seperate manufacturers come up with almost an identical concoction when they have 10x the entire alphabet and numbering system to decide their name?
Honestly, until this GPU price frackfiesta dwells down, I'm not gonna get a 4k monitor, regardless of how much they can pleasure my eyes. Pretty sure most players feel the same. If your GPU can barely handle FHD why get a 4k monitor?
Meh, AMD is trying to help the low-end to mid-end gamers get a GPU that can run the latest games at 1080p on medium to high settings. They can't control what scalpers do with the cards. They're trying to make it less attractive to scalpers but at this point it's a futile effort. Not their fault though lol
Just saying I got a notification pushed to me 3 days late
so… they are doing x4 gfx But motherboard vendors are Still not finally scrapping the antiquated x1 pcie by simply putting a few (4) active x4 pcie on the boards
good for new x4 5gb ethernet, M.2 x4 add on cards, & apparently gfx, will we see x4/M.2 slot hardware gfx/encoders this yearwish they made consumer encoder cards without the gpu on em
my father has a B350 with 2200G, to be honest I'm not even thinking of upgrading anytime soon. All he is using the PC for browsing the net and checking email.
100% test that. I can almost guarantee most 6500 XT buyers will still be on gen 3
I spent the (for me at the time) big money on an X370 for a 1600x gambling that future AM4 CPUs would be good. I'm glad it did turn out to be the case. Being able to upgrade to a 3900xt was amazing. I'd love to plunk a 5950x in sometime in the future. That should let me get by for a long time until ddr5 platforms are settled
why do i think that inwin will be calling their "mesh" versions of their cases something like "Speed holes Edition"
Unofficial non-guaranteed support (with warnings) for Zen 3 on 300 series boards (or for all of the ones which are capable of it) would be fine.
Somehow I don't think Steve is going to get an in win case to review.
Any scalpers?
Intel was a bit misleading to you. Yes their first GPUs will come in the first quarter, in about 1-1.5 months, but only in OEMS first.
Might be q2 to be able to buy the gpus by themselves, at the best the very end of q1.
Rx480 was the best AMD GPU.
It was so good It was made 3 more times: RX580, RX5500, RX6500.
can yon drag on these nuts
the inwin case looks kewl
Well, if X370 gets Ryzen 5000 support then I'll definitely feel like a chump for buying my 3900x
@GamerNexus, the Intel problem had to be a Y2K problem. 2 characters extra could cause the world to stop.
Bru I thought idd be save with the whole JUNGDANG thing. But yeah hahah
nice work Steve!
1440p and 4k monitors are nice, but it's not refresh rate that's keeping me away, it's the cost of the new GPU I'll need to make the switch.
I just can't wait to slap my rtx 3090 in a am5 motherboard. Probably going to skip rtx 4000 and wait for hopper.
One hand it sucks AMD leaves support behind and its confusing. On the other hand double the years of support against Intel. Not quite sure what the balance is.
@GamerNexus It's looking like the rumors might not of been wrong. But I also trust whatever Intel, Nvidia, AMD says too. 🤣
I get the feeling 2022 will be the year of delays and disappointments. AMD came out swinging and missing hard already.
I have a Gigabyte AX370 K5 and it would be nice to have support for Ryzen 5000
'Confirmed by simply asking'
I love the snarkiness.
2:07 Non story you say? seems like software delays have pushed ARC to Q2 now…..
Look I love you Steve, but you kind of took what intel told you a little uncritically. They officially announced yesterday that desktop ARC is indeed delayed to q2 2022
ah yes, the RX 6400, the best solution to get the performance of AMD integrated graphics with an Intel processor.
Where is Arc?
#ArcMasterRaceFTW
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And our NVIDIA 3090 Ti coverage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyPI_DwI5aE